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	<title>Comments on: The Right Way to Do Wrong by Harry Houdini</title>
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		<title>By: Sincerelyornot</title>
		<link>http://conservativebooktalk.com/2007/12/09/the-right-way-to-do-wrong-by-harry-houdini/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Sincerelyornot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Havn't read the book; reveiws of the movie were quite detailed though.  It describes a common circumstance in the Muslim world, as I understand it.  Get to know a missionary/convert from that part of the world is my preffered tactic.  There's a great festival for that in the Northwest United States this weekend: MissionConneXion. 

Although, since books are the forte here; have you read "Princess", Christina?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Havn&#8217;t read the book; reveiws of the movie were quite detailed though.  It describes a common circumstance in the Muslim world, as I understand it.  Get to know a missionary/convert from that part of the world is my preffered tactic.  There&#8217;s a great festival for that in the Northwest United States this weekend: MissionConneXion. </p>
<p>Although, since books are the forte here; have you read &#8220;Princess&#8221;, Christina?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://conservativebooktalk.com/2007/12/09/the-right-way-to-do-wrong-by-harry-houdini/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, never read any of Hosseini's works.  I do know that the book "Kite Runner" has some objectional materials.  The material is sufficiently offensive to have caused fear for the boy's life (the actor for the recent movie).  

But, honestly, other than an author interview on NPR, I know absolutely nothing about it.  Have you read it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, never read any of Hosseini&#8217;s works.  I do know that the book &#8220;Kite Runner&#8221; has some objectional materials.  The material is sufficiently offensive to have caused fear for the boy&#8217;s life (the actor for the recent movie).  </p>
<p>But, honestly, other than an author interview on NPR, I know absolutely nothing about it.  Have you read it?</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone read "The Kite Runner"?  (I post that question here because it seems it would fall under the "Historical/ Current Events" Category)  What were your thoughts on it?  What about his next book, which is quite hot off the press-- "A Thousand Splendid Suns?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone read &#8220;The Kite Runner&#8221;?  (I post that question here because it seems it would fall under the &#8220;Historical/ Current Events&#8221; Category)  What were your thoughts on it?  What about his next book, which is quite hot off the press&#8211; &#8220;A Thousand Splendid Suns?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gardenghi</title>
		<link>http://conservativebooktalk.com/2007/12/09/the-right-way-to-do-wrong-by-harry-houdini/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I know that I love to see how it is done (or figure it out, because I appreciate the craft and skill).  I also loved to be amazed when someone like Michael Ammar defies physics in front of my eyes. :-D

But, the people who fall into that category are far smaller than those who lose interest when they know the secret.  To each their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I know that I love to see how it is done (or figure it out, because I appreciate the craft and skill).  I also loved to be amazed when someone like Michael Ammar defies physics in front of my eyes. <img src='http://conservativebooktalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
But, the people who fall into that category are far smaller than those who lose interest when they know the secret.  To each their own.</p>
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		<title>By: sincerelyornot</title>
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		<dc:creator>sincerelyornot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's interesting!  I appriciate the magic tricks alot more when I know how they are done.  Just like it will be more fun when someone mentions Houdini in the future, because I know more about him from your comments.  You're probably right about most people, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting!  I appriciate the magic tricks alot more when I know how they are done.  Just like it will be more fun when someone mentions Houdini in the future, because I know more about him from your comments.  You&#8217;re probably right about most people, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gardenghi</title>
		<link>http://conservativebooktalk.com/2007/12/09/the-right-way-to-do-wrong-by-harry-houdini/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen those shows, and to be honest, I'm not a big fan of them.  Having performed a few effects myself, (mostly pasteboard prestidigitation) I have seen that most people have a lower opinion of illusions after seeing the solution.  It is the wonder of not understanding that makes the effect enjoyable.

Just my opinion, but those shows tend to detract from the effect and the pleasure of the audience.  There is always someone in the audience who has to spill the beans for those enjoying the effect.  :-)

And no, I'm not bitter.  much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen those shows, and to be honest, I&#8217;m not a big fan of them.  Having performed a few effects myself, (mostly pasteboard prestidigitation) I have seen that most people have a lower opinion of illusions after seeing the solution.  It is the wonder of not understanding that makes the effect enjoyable.</p>
<p>Just my opinion, but those shows tend to detract from the effect and the pleasure of the audience.  There is always someone in the audience who has to spill the beans for those enjoying the effect.  <img src='http://conservativebooktalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And no, I&#8217;m not bitter.  much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sincerelyornot</title>
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		<dc:creator>sincerelyornot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the excellent reveiw!  Its interesting that so many con-artist tricks are as old as the hills.  

I can easily see him offending a group if he patronized them and then revealed them as fakes.  Sounds like there were many candidates for that description.

Even if we all know its not real magic, its fun to see the tricks anyway.  Have you ever watched that tv show "Magic's Greatest Secrets Finally Revealed"; same idea as Houdini, only the trick is explained at the end of the show.  I loved that when I was a kid.  They did basic tricks, usually, not complicated ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the excellent reveiw!  Its interesting that so many con-artist tricks are as old as the hills.  </p>
<p>I can easily see him offending a group if he patronized them and then revealed them as fakes.  Sounds like there were many candidates for that description.</p>
<p>Even if we all know its not real magic, its fun to see the tricks anyway.  Have you ever watched that tv show &#8220;Magic&#8217;s Greatest Secrets Finally Revealed&#8221;; same idea as Houdini, only the trick is explained at the end of the show.  I loved that when I was a kid.  They did basic tricks, usually, not complicated ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gardenghi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Gardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.

I hadn't heard of that group.  I can pretty safely attest that Houdini was not using "magic."  I've seen the techniques for some of his illusions and they were just that: illusions.  ALL stage magicians use scientific principals and sleight of hand.  

As for his involvement in the occult.  Houdini was strongly influenced by the occult.  He sought to communicate with his mother for years.  He consistently sought out mediums to find one that could speak with the dead.  He never found one who could.  When he found another fraud, he exposed them as such.

Houdini went so far as to create a secret passphrase with his wife.  In the event that one of them died, the other would try to communicate using the passphrase as proof of that it was true communication with the dead.

I'll have to dig into the controversy when I get some time.  Thanks for letting me know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard of that group.  I can pretty safely attest that Houdini was not using &#8220;magic.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve seen the techniques for some of his illusions and they were just that: illusions.  ALL stage magicians use scientific principals and sleight of hand.  </p>
<p>As for his involvement in the occult.  Houdini was strongly influenced by the occult.  He sought to communicate with his mother for years.  He consistently sought out mediums to find one that could speak with the dead.  He never found one who could.  When he found another fraud, he exposed them as such.</p>
<p>Houdini went so far as to create a secret passphrase with his wife.  In the event that one of them died, the other would try to communicate using the passphrase as proof of that it was true communication with the dead.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to dig into the controversy when I get some time.  Thanks for letting me know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: sincerelyornot</title>
		<link>http://conservativebooktalk.com/2007/12/09/the-right-way-to-do-wrong-by-harry-houdini/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>sincerelyornot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always heard that story too, although not in quite as much detail (hmmm, no ever mentioned it was a reporter before.  Interesting.)  Then World's little kiddy cousin God's World News ran a story about the controversy.

 Apparently, there was some mystic group that Houdini had run afoul of (they claimed his illusions were due to pagan/spiritual power, while he argued/admitted it was all show, thus negating the fame they were trying to achieve at the time), and they had threatened his life on numerous occaisions.  At the time of his death, it wassuspected that they had actually poisoned him, but there wasn't the technology available to test whether it was just appendix poison or also something else. It seems someone wants to do an actual autopsy on him (they're disembalming his corpse for DNA testing anyway) to see whether or not it was just his appendix.  

Its an excellent lesson in being wary of pride, presumption, and the press!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always heard that story too, although not in quite as much detail (hmmm, no ever mentioned it was a reporter before.  Interesting.)  Then World&#8217;s little kiddy cousin God&#8217;s World News ran a story about the controversy.</p>
<p> Apparently, there was some mystic group that Houdini had run afoul of (they claimed his illusions were due to pagan/spiritual power, while he argued/admitted it was all show, thus negating the fame they were trying to achieve at the time), and they had threatened his life on numerous occaisions.  At the time of his death, it wassuspected that they had actually poisoned him, but there wasn&#8217;t the technology available to test whether it was just appendix poison or also something else. It seems someone wants to do an actual autopsy on him (they&#8217;re disembalming his corpse for DNA testing anyway) to see whether or not it was just his appendix.  </p>
<p>Its an excellent lesson in being wary of pride, presumption, and the press!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gardenghi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Gardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, if we can figure it out in 5 minutes, what about a "pro?"

I did many moons ago read a biography on Houdini.  I didn't realize that there was a debate.  According to what I've always read, he died of a burst appendix.  The story goes that he was being interviewed by a young reporter.  The reporter asked if it was true that Houdini could withstand a punch by any man.  When Houdini (reading his mail) absentmindedly responded in the affirmative, the young reporter thought that this meant Houdini was prepared.

The young man punched Houdini and ruptured the appendix.  Houdini was in pain, but assumed nothing.  During his last performance, Houdini's staff and wife performed the illusions for him.  He died several days later from poisoning from the appendix.  

What have you heard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if we can figure it out in 5 minutes, what about a &#8220;pro?&#8221;</p>
<p>I did many moons ago read a biography on Houdini.  I didn&#8217;t realize that there was a debate.  According to what I&#8217;ve always read, he died of a burst appendix.  The story goes that he was being interviewed by a young reporter.  The reporter asked if it was true that Houdini could withstand a punch by any man.  When Houdini (reading his mail) absentmindedly responded in the affirmative, the young reporter thought that this meant Houdini was prepared.</p>
<p>The young man punched Houdini and ruptured the appendix.  Houdini was in pain, but assumed nothing.  During his last performance, Houdini&#8217;s staff and wife performed the illusions for him.  He died several days later from poisoning from the appendix.  </p>
<p>What have you heard?</p>
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